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At the moment it is a moot point, EV density as proposed is not possible, technically or on the basis of logistical support in terms of servicing the EV vehicles or charging stations; even if those hurdles were somehow over come, the current electrical transmission and distribution grid can not support the effort in any fashion. A cynic would say they know this, and as it is with shrinking major city main thoroughfare’s from four lone way lanes to two, in an effort to aid people using bicycle transport, a failing grid which cannot support the density of EV’a envisioned accomplishes the goal of making it A. Harder to use a vehicle of any sort, especially in a city, B. Make the vehicles so expensive as to be unaffordable to the masses. Thus unwinding Henry Ford’s vision of lower cost accessibility for the many verses high cost accessibility for the wealthy few.

Even if there were violent agreement on the transition to EV’s (and there is clearly not, see local dealer lots loaded with the inventory) the cost of grid stability coupled with the increased use of wind and solar are a witches brew of electrical production and transportation failure. Cold and dark for the masses, EV’s for the few. Yep that is the All American Way of economic progress!

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Yep, reality is inconvenient

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When fear of carbon overwhelms a mind, energy poverty is the next bus stop.

I’m delighted to see that you are focused on the essential root of our problem. When seen as a moral issue, no economic argument will sway a society and affluence collapse becomes inevitable. When we see kids still in school, glue themselves to roads and cry “end carbon pollution” the scale of the problem is obvious. A life form that is 20% carbon, using a carbon based glue, protest against a carbon molecule you know that education is not what’s being done in school.

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So true

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EVs are better and cheaper and demand is growing! And there is a huge selection sitting on your dealer’s lot at sharply discounted prices.

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Ha! It’s difficult to caricature a belief system that is so far out of touch!

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So true 🥲😅

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If they are so much better and cheaper, they would be flying off the shelves and there would be no need for any kind of mandates. The reality is they’re sitting on dealer lots which tells you something. I live in Minnesota, and I have absolutely no intention of buying an EV anytime soon.

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Amen brother. I was trying to be sarcastic.

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I live in Canada. Notice how nobody ever talks about heating these things in the winter? I'm sure you are like me and have to run your heater 8 months of the year (and you're waaaay north of me).

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Yeah good point. Curious - what type of home heating do you have? Oil? Propane?

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You're gonna love this. I heat with geothermal (horizontal loop). Both my house and my shop (self employed). My house is located on a 50 acre bush lot, and 47 acres are deemed "natural environment". I'm a true believer in geothermal. I've used it for almost 20 years and it's cheap and effecitve. So my "green cred" is as good as anybody's. But I'm still considered a "denier". My truck has a 6.7 diesel, I own three chainsaws, an RTV, and more ICE engines than I can count. It's all about context and application. And EV's aint gonna work where I live and work. There's a time and place for everything, and the market is a pretty good way of determining what works where. Cheers!

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You sir are correct - love it!

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Demand is definitely growing! Agree that they can be better, just not that they’re alwaysss better

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Earth is cooler w GHE not warmer.

GHE graphics use bad math & badder physics.

Kinetic heat transfer makes “extra” BB energy impossible.

Since GHE & CAGW climate “science” are indefensible rubbish alarmists resort to fear mongering lies, lawsuits, censorship & violence.

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